Suspension #2 – Front Suspension Design

My intent for the upper A-arm joints is to follow the idea of Jim McSorley at Sevenesque. He shows how he built his front suspension to accommodate adjustment, but I will not include that. He also is the one who suggested the Speedway Motors main shaft for adjustable A-arm.

The upper A-arm brackets will be mounted on the front uprights (A-arm supports).

Location of the front uprights.
Location of the front uprights.

Here is my concept for using the A-arm main shaft. I think I will just weld two stubs of tubing and bolt to that (with support between the stubs), but there is the option of using the adjustable brackets as described in Sevenesque.

Mounting upper A-arm main shaft with Heim joints.
Mounting upper A-arm main shaft with Heim joints.
Upper A-arm Heim joint offset from frame.
Upper A-arm Heim joint offset from frame.
Main shaft source and part number.
Main shaft source and part number.

For reference, the Vodou front suspension mounting points are given below.

Front suspension mounting points from the Vodou drawings (see Getting Started #1).
Front suspension mounting points from the Vodou drawings (see Getting Started #1).

We will start by calculating the top A-arm Heim joint locations as a function of height above the bottom of the frame. We will vary the height during the roll center calculations. Here are the calculations.

Calculations to locate the upper A-arm Heim joint locations.
Calculations to locate the upper A-arm Heim joint locations.

I will use VSusp to calculate roll center. This software runs in your web browser and was develop by Rob at admin@vsusp.com. It is clever in that your input data is saved in a web link, so you just save that link and you can open it later to get back to your work.

The following input data is required.

VSusp input for the frame tab.
VSusp input for the frame tab.
VSusp input for the control arms tab.
VSusp input for the control arms tab.
VSusp input for the steering knuckles tab.
VSusp input for the steering knuckles tab.
VSusp input for the steering tab.
VSusp input for the steering tab.
VSusp input for the wheels tab.
VSusp input for the wheels tab.

Here are my measured values for the hub and wheel. These were measured using a square and tape measure relative to the hub. You will notice a slight discrepancy for the Hub to upper ball joint X value in this figure vs. measurements from the car centerline given in the Suspension #1 post. Here I measure 125 mm and in the other measurement the value is 130 mm. I will use these numbers.

Measured wheel and hub dimensions.
Measured wheel and hub dimensions.

I used a spreadsheet to help calculate the VSusp input values.

Spreadsheet used to calculate the input for VSusp.
Spreadsheet used to calculate the input for VSusp.

Here are figures showing the VSusp calculations for the Locost 01 case. The first is with zero roll and the second at 2 degrees of roll. Hopefully 2 degrees of roll is all I expect to see.

VSusp calculation showing the Roll Center at 1.772 inches with -0.106 degrees of camber on both wheels.
VSusp calculation showing the Roll Center at 1.772 inches with -0.106 degrees of camber on both wheels.
VSusp calculation showing a 2 degree roll. The Roll Center is at 1.772 inches with positive camber on the outside wheel and negative camber on the inside.
VSusp calculation showing a 2 degree roll. The Roll Center is at 1.772 inches with positive camber on the outside wheel and negative camber on the inside.

Here is a plot of roll center height and camber change on the left (outer) tire as a function of roll angle.

Plots of Roll Center height and left (outside) wheel camber as a function of roll angle.
Plots of Roll Center height and left (outside) wheel camber as a function of roll angle.

And here is a summary of the results. I think I like the Locost 01 case. It has a reasonable roll center height based on Staniforth and reduces the camber change with roll pretty reasonably. It is somewhat surprising how sensitive the roll center is to the location of the inner upper A-arm support. I can see some advantage to having an adjustable attachment, but the bracket is large and does not fit well on the frame. I think as long as I go for the Locost 01 case and measure carefully, things should be ok.

Summary of VSusp results. I am happy with the Locost 01 case. The roll center seems to be at a good location and sensitivity to roll is reasonable.
Summary of VSusp results. I am happy with the Locost 01 case. The roll center seems to be at a good location and sensitivity to roll is reasonable.

A couple of other things:

  • The upper A-arm center is positioned 20 mm behind the lower A-arm. This corresponds to a caster of 5°. This is the same value as in the Miata.
  • On the Miata the front bracket of the upper A-arm support was 10 mm mm above the back bracket. This gives some anti-dive. I will probably include in my final assembly.

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